Thank you, Bill, and Third Act. Do you happen to know if California has any active bills for 'polluter pays' legislation? I just read on lie the 2023/2024 proposal failed. I'd like to email the governor, and my new Assembly person ASAP, I think a right wing Republican won again in my District but I'll harass him too.
Thank you, very much appreciated. I am with you all the way on the State by State approach. Texas wins prove that even with a dictator for governor, you can work around to achieve common goals.
Newsom recently took pains to keep Diablo Canyon alive. What else do you need to know about the political muscle of the world’s fifth largest economy? Or about how much faith we should place in government to nurture our home?
I'm a volunteer for Citizens' Climate Lobby in California and I wonder if this is something we should be working on at the state level. CCL's main focus is federal legislation, but with the headwinds there over the next few years, maybe a shift is in order to some degree.
Yes!! CCL National made it clear to Washington State CCLers that their number one priority this Fall was resisting the attempt by special interests to overturn the state’s polluters pay policy. And we did.
The burning of the Indonesian rainforest sold as 'green energy' is a setback that can hardly be counteracted by our feeble attempts at 'fixing' the issues. No amount of money will give us our planet back.
Thank you for the good news today, Bill! I know I need to know the bad news that you give us too, but sometimes I hover over the "unsubscribe" button. It can be so discouraging.
"Meanwhile, deforestation for biomass projects has already arisen in the country’s Kalimantan, Sulawesi and Papua regions." I sailed to Kalimantan, and a local boat took us way up a chocolate brown river to an orangutan sanctuary and a reforestation project. Their habitat is diminishing rapidly, already decimated by the palm oil industry plantations. So sad. I feel fortunate to have seen some of these creatures in the wild.
Thanks as always. I am excited to heat about the replacement of the S. Texas coal planet! Generally speaking, you need a thick skin to be an environmentalist in Texas.
I understand the importance of getting Big Oil to pay for their impacts on Climate. Is the goal then that these high fines will lead them to transition away from oil to more sustainable energy sources? (Sorry if this is a no brainer question, I’m new to the space, and really interested).
A very smart question. Part of the answer is, they should simply pay for the damage they do. But it's also about pressuring them to change, the way that the tobacco industry was pressured to change. Exxon, after all, could be doing other things--like building solar panels
YES, Bill! I just love Liz Krueger's point - would we prefer this get done at the federal level? Indeed. How's that been working out for us? Not at all. So, let's GO!
And, "name and fame" storytelling about these wins like NYS, and what Jack Hanson of Run On Climate, Catherine Atkin (policy architect of #CA's SB253) and Janelle Kellman (doing an incredible job for the past year + amplifying her work/take/intentions in her 2026 run for CA Lt. Gov) are up to is the GOLD. This stuff is happening. We all have the power to make this appear the trending social norm of political leadership if we understand how to use *whatever* size platform we have. #ClimateInfluence potential abounds
Bil Carrots not sticks.l I would like to suggest to you and your readers the commentary on climate change by One Percent Brighter on substack. Some good insights IMHO.
Bill, much as I would like to join in praising this news, I can't. Our desperate necessity is massive reduction of global CO2e emissions; somehow recalling legacy emissions from the atmosphere; and rational, humane preparation for the brutal outcomes already predicted if we cannot do these things. State level legislation in NY or any state to make corporations pay for damages, incurred and expected, even if it survives lengthy legal challenge, simply will not have any effect to stem FF production or the rising CO2e saturation of the atmosphere and oceans.
Surely such measures need to be judged in light of the powerful forces working against them.
I no longer find it possible to celebrate incremental wins that in aggregate really don't add up to significant change. Believing that any & all small steps are important doesn't make it so. There has to be measurable evidence for claims & promises made.
And yet today – "About 1.3 billion people worldwide use tobacco products, with 80% of those users living in low- and middle-income countries. In 2020, 22.3% of the world's population used tobacco"
Bill, I have been a long time supporter, read The End Of Nature when it was published, and appreciate what you are trying to do now as a journalist and organizer. But I have come to believe from decades of experience that public pressure on government and corporate forces to act responsibly will not lead them to support radical changes that would undermine their (and everyone's) dependance on the expanding FF economy. Especially now with the Trump Show back on stage.
Carry a Giant Plastic Turd on your head fixed like a hat. All day and everyday. And when you are out shopping, tell everyone you get up super early every morning as you've discovered the delights of Wild Swimming. You read about it in a Health Mag and think it is just the best thing.
I hope Vermont can up it's game with solar. There is virtually no place within the state for individuals to get the equipment or advise to install their own solar that is not tied to the grid.
Thank you Third Act and everyone who helped make this possible with your sacrifice
The Brave Little State is small but mighty!
indeed!
Thank you, Bill, and Third Act. Do you happen to know if California has any active bills for 'polluter pays' legislation? I just read on lie the 2023/2024 proposal failed. I'd like to email the governor, and my new Assembly person ASAP, I think a right wing Republican won again in my District but I'll harass him too.
yes, it will be back in the legislature next session. follow the Third Act CA groups for updates (and i'll do my best to follow it here as well)
Thank you, very much appreciated. I am with you all the way on the State by State approach. Texas wins prove that even with a dictator for governor, you can work around to achieve common goals.
Newsom recently took pains to keep Diablo Canyon alive. What else do you need to know about the political muscle of the world’s fifth largest economy? Or about how much faith we should place in government to nurture our home?
I'm a volunteer for Citizens' Climate Lobby in California and I wonder if this is something we should be working on at the state level. CCL's main focus is federal legislation, but with the headwinds there over the next few years, maybe a shift is in order to some degree.
Yes!! CCL National made it clear to Washington State CCLers that their number one priority this Fall was resisting the attempt by special interests to overturn the state’s polluters pay policy. And we did.
The burning of the Indonesian rainforest sold as 'green energy' is a setback that can hardly be counteracted by our feeble attempts at 'fixing' the issues. No amount of money will give us our planet back.
Thank you for the good news today, Bill! I know I need to know the bad news that you give us too, but sometimes I hover over the "unsubscribe" button. It can be so discouraging.
"Meanwhile, deforestation for biomass projects has already arisen in the country’s Kalimantan, Sulawesi and Papua regions." I sailed to Kalimantan, and a local boat took us way up a chocolate brown river to an orangutan sanctuary and a reforestation project. Their habitat is diminishing rapidly, already decimated by the palm oil industry plantations. So sad. I feel fortunate to have seen some of these creatures in the wild.
It’s all a giant race, friend. Can we change fast enough to save some stuff?
Thanks as always. I am excited to heat about the replacement of the S. Texas coal planet! Generally speaking, you need a thick skin to be an environmentalist in Texas.
some remarkable activists down there!
I understand the importance of getting Big Oil to pay for their impacts on Climate. Is the goal then that these high fines will lead them to transition away from oil to more sustainable energy sources? (Sorry if this is a no brainer question, I’m new to the space, and really interested).
A very smart question. Part of the answer is, they should simply pay for the damage they do. But it's also about pressuring them to change, the way that the tobacco industry was pressured to change. Exxon, after all, could be doing other things--like building solar panels
Aha I see, thank you!
YES, Bill! I just love Liz Krueger's point - would we prefer this get done at the federal level? Indeed. How's that been working out for us? Not at all. So, let's GO!
And, "name and fame" storytelling about these wins like NYS, and what Jack Hanson of Run On Climate, Catherine Atkin (policy architect of #CA's SB253) and Janelle Kellman (doing an incredible job for the past year + amplifying her work/take/intentions in her 2026 run for CA Lt. Gov) are up to is the GOLD. This stuff is happening. We all have the power to make this appear the trending social norm of political leadership if we understand how to use *whatever* size platform we have. #ClimateInfluence potential abounds
Thank you for all you do, Bill. And while I’m not much of a joiner, Third Act sounds interesting. Collective wisdom is the way.
Bil Carrots not sticks.l I would like to suggest to you and your readers the commentary on climate change by One Percent Brighter on substack. Some good insights IMHO.
This is great! Hit em where it hurts..the bottom line! Only thing they care about is money.
Bill, much as I would like to join in praising this news, I can't. Our desperate necessity is massive reduction of global CO2e emissions; somehow recalling legacy emissions from the atmosphere; and rational, humane preparation for the brutal outcomes already predicted if we cannot do these things. State level legislation in NY or any state to make corporations pay for damages, incurred and expected, even if it survives lengthy legal challenge, simply will not have any effect to stem FF production or the rising CO2e saturation of the atmosphere and oceans.
Surely such measures need to be judged in light of the powerful forces working against them.
I no longer find it possible to celebrate incremental wins that in aggregate really don't add up to significant change. Believing that any & all small steps are important doesn't make it so. There has to be measurable evidence for claims & promises made.
Perhaps. I do think the analogy with the tobacco industry is pretty apt
And yet today – "About 1.3 billion people worldwide use tobacco products, with 80% of those users living in low- and middle-income countries. In 2020, 22.3% of the world's population used tobacco"
Bill, I have been a long time supporter, read The End Of Nature when it was published, and appreciate what you are trying to do now as a journalist and organizer. But I have come to believe from decades of experience that public pressure on government and corporate forces to act responsibly will not lead them to support radical changes that would undermine their (and everyone's) dependance on the expanding FF economy. Especially now with the Trump Show back on stage.
The Ecocide Bill is being read through the Scottish Parliament at Holyrood. ( M.S.P. Mònica Lennon ).
Carry a Giant Plastic Turd on your head fixed like a hat. All day and everyday. And when you are out shopping, tell everyone you get up super early every morning as you've discovered the delights of Wild Swimming. You read about it in a Health Mag and think it is just the best thing.
I hope Vermont can up it's game with solar. There is virtually no place within the state for individuals to get the equipment or advise to install their own solar that is not tied to the grid.